Created on 2013-04-19.00:00:00 last changed 116 months ago
Proposed resolution:
Ammend [support.types], Table 30 as indicated:
Table 30 — Header <cstddef> synopsis Type Name(s) Macros: NULL offset_t Types: ptrdiff_t ssize_t size_t max_align_t nullptr_t
Add the following paragraph to describe ssize_t
-?- The type ssize_t is an implementation-defined signed integer type that shall contain the minimum range [-1, {SSIZE_MAX}] where SSIZE_MAX is specified at a minimum of _POSIX_SSIZE_MAX.
Ammend p7 as follows:
-7- [Note: It is recommended that implementations choose types for ptrdiff_t, ssize_t, and size_t whose integer conversion ranks …
[ Lenexa 2015-05-05: NAD - no consensus for a change ]
Billy : ssize_t that was promised to be signed, was based on rsize_t from safe secure C
NM : ssize_t s ptrdif_t
Z : ptrdiff_t is full range, ssize_t has only -1 as negative value
Billy : motivations for ptrdiff_T, ssize_t and rsize_T all fuzzy. - Reads rsize max -
NM : ptrdiff_T not big enough to rep difference of pointers anymore
STL : description incorporates posixisms
Billy : Don't need it
NM : rather remove it from footnote
Z : Name has precise meaning
STL : everyone understands ptrdiff_t is signed counterpart to size_t
Billy : Not in all implementations anymore
DK : footnote says something different from ...
Z/NM : off_t historically tainted
STL : we have a type trait to make signed version of size_t. we should just use that
MC : NAD; is feature request
TP : It's not cstdsef
[ 2013-09-29, Suggested wording from Jayson Oldfather ]
I decided to use the phrase to describe ssize_t below because of the text describing it in the POSIX standard. In it, it describes ssize_t with the value range of [-1,{SSIZE_MAX}]. SSIZE_MAX is specified in the POSIX standard as a minimum value of _POSIX_SSIZE_MAX. This macro is referenced in the wording below.
The C++ standard library defines size_t, a typedef for an implementation defined unsigned integer type that can represent the sizes of objects. The POSIX standard augments this with ssize_t, a typedef for a signed integer type that corresponds to size_t.
The ssize_t typedef is useful — useful enough that the C++ standard even refers to it. (In a non-normative footnote in [stream.types].) Also, lots of OS vendors add it to their headers anyway, even though it isn't part of the C or C++ standards, because those vendors are trying to define headers that conform to multiple standards at once. We should make users' and implementers' lives easier by adding ssize_t to [support.types].History | |||
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Date | User | Action | Args |
2015-05-22 19:38:14 | admin | set | messages: + msg7441 |
2015-05-22 19:38:14 | admin | set | status: new -> nad |
2013-09-29 19:32:18 | admin | set | messages: + msg6668 |
2013-09-29 18:43:42 | admin | set | messages: + msg6667 |
2013-04-19 00:00:00 | admin | create |